Oct 21, 2006, 11:05 AM // 11:05
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Black Mesa Knights
Profession: N/Me
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New policy for SS join - Rollcall of 55 Block scammers
One of the major attractions of uw is that you can get the ecto..
Picture the scene.
You are a SS.
You have asked for a 55 with Spell breaker to do UW
Bit strange that the 55 isn't using spell breaker.......
You have just cleared the Grasping nightmares and are just about to go under the arch....
When the 55 runs off round the corner...leaving u behind...you cant go any further cos of the axas and the 55 starts killing the smites, getting all the loot for himself..
Reason - he got Shield of Judgment and has conned u.
How many times have i seen this....loads...
After talking on the guildguru irc chat a new policy has been suggested to me which i have been using...
Ask for 55/SB - and only pay when they show u SB in underworld.
If they don't.....then only pay when you have done the smites....
I'm sick of these monk block scammers - it takes the fun out of farming....
Also i would like to start a roster of those monks that do this...
All the monk is doing is using the SS to clear the first area...
Also for the good monks that are ok, add them to your friends so u know u can trust them
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Ok taken the name off....
TBH u should be able to name scammers....and of course it can be abused..
Then again if nothing is done.....and they dont get there name somewhere...there gonna think it ok.....
but of course it should be subject to the board rules..
then again...the policy should be posted and made a sticky
Last edited by BlueShad0w; Oct 21, 2006 at 12:03 PM // 12:03..
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Oct 21, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11
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#2
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Star Riders (StR)
Profession: N/
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To OP, you should know from forum rules that you are not allowed to name scammers here. You should remove this post before the admin do. I understand your upset, however naming and shaming can be abused.
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Oct 21, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06
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#3
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: [Rage]
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the solution> Take Illusion of haste in one of your open slots, voila, you cant be scammed
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Oct 21, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52
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#4
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Krytan Explorer
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bring illusion of weakness
Use it on the monk when he tries to backstab you
instant death D:
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Oct 21, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54
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#5
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Banned
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^ You can't.
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Oct 21, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15
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#6
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: [Rage]
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To respond to the OP, there is a very good reason we dont allow naming as such,
lets say i decide i just plain dont like you, or i want to make trouble, or somebody in your guild screwed me over
all i have to do is say
"Lucky Lamba" Screwed me over!
Now you'll have hell getting into a duo run, even though you havent done anything wrong
The reason we dont do this is just plain common sense, anyone in a bad mood can screw sombody over big time
think before you post
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Oct 21, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20
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#7
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: England
Guild: VoB
Profession: Me/
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Dont kill grasping darknesses for them, When i see they dont use Spell breaker and start using zealots fire and retribution etc, I simply agro all i can on top of them xD
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Oct 21, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28
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#8
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2006
Profession: W/
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Do what I do - solo it.
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Oct 21, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53
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#9
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Frost Gate Guardian
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i feel u man
had this done to me many times
have 5 monks in a row that did this to me day before yesterday
that was when i started uw farming on my SS
now if they dodn't use sb i just turn on the quest and agro everything i can to the monk
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Oct 21, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27
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#10
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: In Memorium [iBot]
Profession: Mo/A
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I have a policy of only playing SS for my friends. PUG 55's are usually a total failure: either they ditch you and go for the smites as the OP described, or they just do a crappy job in general, like dying for no apparent reason(I let the first death go because it's entirely possible that lag caused it. It's after the second that I got annoyed.) In all other cases, I play as the 55. Can't believe how many SS'es are stunned to have someone who can speak English and use SB. :P
I think spliting the fee after you get inside is probably the best way. Another way might be to zone to the curtain and show SB. If they're scammers, they might just switch to SoJ after getting back in, but this might help eliminate people who just don't have SB, or people who can't understand english enough to get any kind of communication going.
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Oct 21, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37
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#11
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In The Deep
Profession: R/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco
Dont kill grasping darknesses for them, When i see they dont use Spell breaker and start using zealots fire and retribution etc, I simply agro all i can on top of them xD
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Well, against an Spirit Bond monk it really doesn't matter, they could take on a thousand Aatxes without dying.
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Oct 21, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49
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#12
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: W/Mo
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as a 55 that uses SB and always shares i think this SS pay later idea could be abused to the advantage of ss scammers by getting to the smites then leaving when 55 asks for money giving the ss a fee run
or just killing grasping darkness and quiting early for a real fast free run that possible had a few ecto drops
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Oct 21, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51
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#13
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum
Do what I do - solo it.
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Exactly, much less complicated that way.
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Oct 21, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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#14
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Banned
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Or..
Become friends with a 55/SB you work well with, and partner with him!
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Oct 21, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57
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#15
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Guild: Pink Pearl
Profession: Mo/Me
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Heh, another suggestion I would make is for all the 55 monks to use spirit bond instead of healing breeze, that way you can get 3 groups of aatxes, and the quest group in the beginning of UW no sweat. Btw... spirit bond works when you have 55 hp.
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Oct 21, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58
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#16
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Black Mesa Knights
Profession: N/Me
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Idea is that if you show SB right at the very start.....before u even start -
Then the SS gives u the 500g...
Of course if the monk is a scammer and hasnt got SB, Then of course the SS dont pay...
IF the monk has got SOJ instead.....pay when your doing the smites...
And point taken about the naming bit....just soooo pissed off about it.
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Oct 22, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06
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#17
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Aequitas Deis
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i just dont go uw with pugs
i am a monk and i rather chat with a guildie for the 1 hour being there then with a random guy
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Oct 22, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sept-Iles, QC, Canada
Guild: Les Tricératops Sont Nos [Amis]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum
Do what I do - solo it.
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wow ur good can i have ur autograph
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Oct 22, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: N/Me
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The "i'll pay you after you show me SB" works fine because if the monk doesn't have SB the necro doesn't pay, and if the necro doesn't pay the monk doesn't move, so your going to be stuck at the beginning of UW if you decide not to make the deal.
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Oct 22, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38
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#20
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Black Mesa Knights
Profession: N/Me
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Can this be made a sticky....the policy....
I've been using this for a couple of days now...and it works....
monks dont want to know are usally those that block people in....
and another point....no good them showing u outside in black curtain...cos they can change skills....
got to be in uw.....
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